Wednesday, December 03, 2008

Maybe Gates Wasn't All That Excited About the Surge. One of the hard-core beliefs on the left is that conservative Republicans live in a fantasy world. I can't count the number of times war critics referred to Bush administration policy in Iraq as delusional.

Talk of Republicans being delusional died down during the election. But I'm wondering if that was premature. Max Boot, Kevin McCullough, and other conservative commentators take it as a matter of faith that President-elect Obama is not going to withdraw troops from Iraq on the sixteen-month schedule he advocated during the campaign.

According to Max Boot:
I have to admit that I am gobsmacked by these appointments , most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain. (Jim Jones is an old friend of McCain's, and McCain almost certainly would have asked Gates to stay on as well.) This all but puts an end to the 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, the unconditional summits with dictators, and other foolishness that once emanated from the Obama campaign.
But perhaps it's the other way around. Maybe Gates and Jim Jones were never really on board with the Iraq War. Maybe Hillary Clinton didn't like trashing the Constitution all that much either.

Here's Secretary of Defense Bill Gates on Obama's withdrawal timetable:
Asked today if he considered himself “at odds” with Obama on the timetable, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that he “would subscribe to what the President-elect said yesterday in Chicago.” Pressed by reporters on the length of the time frame,” Gates said that Obama “framed it just right yesterday.”
Who knows! Maybe Gates just never agreed with the surge policy.

7 comments:

Unknown said...

again, the issue here, is just the fact that the illuminati said they'd do one thing and are now advocating another. I guess we'll find out everything else we're going to see done differently than was promised.

Ric Caric said...

What's different? Obama didn't promise to nominate Dennis Kucinich to be Secretary of Defense. He promised a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq. And that's what he's going to deliver--a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq.

What's seemingly different is Gates saying that a 16 month withdrawl is a good idea. But that's the point of the post. Maybe Gates was never on board with the Bush administration to start with.

Anonymous said...

Of course he's doing what he promised. He promised a bipartisan cabinet filled with diverse people. He has delivered on that. What else do you want?

Gates is aware of all that Obama stands for, and he wouldn't have remained on if he seriously disagreed.

Anonymous said...

Considering the fact that Hillary and her fellow illuminati congress men and women gave the president at 2/3 majority vote to go into Iraq, it's very difficult to predict which side these liberals really are on.

Anonymous said...

But no one expects that every campagin promise is fulfilled. Really, do you expect that?

But that doesn't mean that Obama won't pursue the basic agenda he laid out. If he gets 1% of what he's proposed accomplished, it will be more than we've seen in 8 years. If he only gets half of the military out of Iraq, he'll have made the world a better place. Obviously, I hope and believe he'll do even more good things.

Perhaps he'll get 10-15% of what he promised done in the next 4 years. If so, I think he'll be doing pretty damn good.

AnnCoulterScaresChildren said...

How does the fact that the "illuminati" (is that really catching on? is that wit or has someone watched Tomb Raider one too many times) and his fellow democrats supported going into Iraq have any relevance with withdrawal? I went to see Gigli with a friend when it was in theaters and we left 20 minutes into the movie. Our decision to begin the movie had no bearing on our decision to leave. Furthermore, I am sure that the audience members who chose to stay, thinking that the movie couldn't get any worse, were far more disappointed than we were.

I have a tough time thinking that Gates was against the surge, but I seriously doubt those who are already questioning his allegiance to Obama's policies. Sure, Obama promised a lot (and isn't backing down on any of it, despite the recession), but withdrawal was a cornerstone of his campaign and the American people are going to hold him to that one.

AnnCoulterScaresChildren said...

*edited version* (right-wing desperation and name-calling has made it difficult for me to distinguish Obama from the Democratic Party and the Devil and the terrorists in Mumbai…)

How does the fact that the "illuminati" (is that really catching on? is that wit or has someone watched Tomb Raider one too many times) supported going into Iraq having any relevance with withdrawal. I went to see Gigli with a friend when it was in theaters and we left 20 minutes into the movie. Our decision to begin the movie had no bearing on our decision to leave. Furthermore, I am sure that the audience members who chose to stay, thinking that the movie couldn't get any worse, were worse off than we were.
I have a tough time thinking that Gates was against the surge, but I seriously doubt those who are already questioning his allegiance to Obama's policies. Sure, Obama promised a lot (and isn't backing down on any of it, despite the recession), but the withdrawal promise is one that the American people are going to hold him to.